EKA — The List
The Top 200 Emo Albums of All Time
A few weeks ago, my friend Hunter made a comment about what he believed to be the greatest emo album of all time and it got my little fisher price brain thinking, “what IS the best emo album of all time?”. Obviously this is an impossible question to answer. Wtf is emo? You could stop a handful of people and ask them and you’d get a handful of answers ranging from the copy pasta to MCR to Embrace to Hot Mulligan to Hawthorne Heights to Marietta to idk, MGK? Knowing all of that, my dumbass still decided to proceed with this project.
Here’s how the list was put together: I sent the form to 300+ people and also asked some of them to send it around as well. There was no rules, no parameters of what is or isn’t emo, just “gimme ur list”. If you're wondering why so and so didn't participate, there's a good chance I sent it to so and so and they just didn't fill it out. there's also an equally good chance I didn't think to send it to so and so or I just forgot or I didn't know how to get in touch. I'm not a professional pollster I'm just a guy who had a bad idea.
Of those 300 or so recipients, 139 (including the 3 of us) submitted lists of their top 10 emo albums of all time, as well as any honorable mentions they may have. A first place album was worth 10 points, a tenth place album worth 1 point. Honorable mentions were worth half a point. If an album had 5 or more nominations it received a bonus 5 points. To qualify, an album needed to be nominated at least twice. If a band already had an album on the list, the following albums were docked a few points in an attempt to get some more variety. In total we received 575 album nominations and let me just say, if the list gets you riled up you do NOT want to see some of the submissions that missed the cut. Once the submissions were closed off, I tallied everything up.
Before you dive into the list though, please remember every list like this is bullshit. I worked hard on this and I hope it creates fun discourse and leads to everyone discovering (and rediscovering) cool music, but c’mon. None of this means anything. As so many of you have kindly pointed out, a lot of this list isn't even emo! Also, please do not get too hung on on which album came in 122nd instead of 68th, there is a 10 point gap between 200 and 101, meaning one extra person voting and picking any album in the back half as their favorite would jump that album into the top 100. That being said, there is a 100 point different between 100 and 10, and nearly 100 more between 10 and 1.
I did my absolute best to get as many people from every wave and era but the list does have a heavy recency bias. Hey, it’s all about who shows up to vote, ya know? This last month felt like I was working on a big school project about democracy. I’m not sure I learned anything.
Anyways, thank you to everyone who participated. Thank you to everyone who contributed additional words, thoughts and memories. Thank you to Amanda and Catherine for putting up with me and enabling my dumb ideas. Special thank you to Josh and Phil for making all of this much more aesthetically pleasing than I ever could. Thank you to Hunter for the inspiration and thank YOU for reading and checking it out. My hope is that this brings more joy than rage. There's enough real stuff to be mad about right now, music and art are meant to bring us joy. Even the sad shit.
Enjoy! (i'm sorry).
- Robb Laffoon, EKA
UPDATE: Ok so I didn't expect the list to generate so much discourse but I am very grateful that it did! I had a lot of fun working on it.. The purpose of this project was to not only celebrate some great records, but to ask the question “wtf IS emo?”. The term “emo” term that has grown to mean so much more than any specific musical definition and this response showed that. For every “real emo” responder commenting about the inclusion of Elliott Smith and blink-182, there was someone else upset about the lack of Green Day, Alesana, and Never Shout Never (yes these are all real comments we received).
While I do think that genres and sub-genres are useful ways to categorize and they should have meaning, genres evolve over time and at some points can become unrecognizable to the early innovators. Talk to an old school hip hop or country fan and ask them what they think of the new crop of stars in their respective genres, you’ll get fairly similar responses. Conversely, language and culture also change. What was once an emotional sub-genre is now a spirit halloween costume, a meme, a theme night at your local nightclub where they play Paramore, P!ATD and Papa Roach. It can be a little confusing to an outsider. Are they both “right”? Is everything emo? If everything is emo, does that mean nothing is emo? I’m not sure I’m equipped to answer those questions, even after working on this list and the ensuing response.
Now I’m not saying that just because your local NHL team does an emo themed night, we all now have to accept Neck Deep and blink-182 as retroactively emo, but I am saying it’s interesting trying to find out where and why they overreact. As the co-host of this show, I go through a near daily humiliation ritual where I meet people and have to tell them I’m a 37 year old white guy with a podcast about emo. Every time this happens and the person has a loose idea of what emo is, they usually respond with their favorite “emo” bands and memories. Each one clearly having a slightly different definition than the last person, usually mentioning one band that is objectively “not emo”.
However, after doing this project and seeing picks from members of so many bands of various levels and ages, it became apparent that nearly everyone has that one album (or band) that is NOT emo, but to them 100% is. I had one! The #1 pick on my personal list was Osker, a band you’ll find on early Punk-O-Rama’s, not a Polyvinyl release. But guess what? That record feels like west coast Jawbreaker to me! And the homie Eric Egan agrees! Are we wrong about Idle Will Kill being an emo record? Probably. Possibly. But also, who really fuckin cares?
Thank you to everyone who checked out the list, but a very big thanks to everyone who responded passionately. Good and bad. Much like the Philadelphia Eagles and One Direction, emo enjoyers are passionate fans, short for fanatics. Myself included. I love emo and emo adjacent music. Pop Punk, Post hardcore, sad boi indie shit that could have been on The OC or Garden State Soundtrack? I love this shit. I love talking about it and debating it and discovering new bands, and that was my biggest hope for the list. Shoutout to everyone who has made playlists or started listening to the albums on the list, I especially love how many people shared their own lists on social media. That was awesome. I found a ton of new records to check out. I hope you did too.
Thanks! Sorry!
- Robb, EKA